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« on: 09 November 2005, 14:07:10 » |
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In a letter addressed to the software development community, Palm Inc.'s CEO Ed Colligan reacted directly to threads on mytreo.net and other forums suggesting that Palm would abandon the Palm operating system on future devices. Mr. Colligan wrote, "I'm concerned by the number of posts I've read that suggest that Palm's support of Palm OS is either wavering or short-lived. It is neither." Click here to read the full article. |
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« Reply #1 on: 11 November 2005, 12:51:41 » |
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I don't think he gets it. correct me if i am wrong but i don't think most of us are as concerned about the death of palm os as much as the death of palm os treos. also, lets be real here mr colligan, you have not updated your os in forty forevers, you sold palmsource, you signed agreements with microsoft and changed the operating system of your flagship product and then you mean tell us you not walking away from palms os and your current user base. give us cellular users (esp sprint) a treo 700p and I might believe your speech.
"This is not a zero-sum game! ...this does not mean we need to walk away from our existing products or technology partnerships, like Palm OS."
no it just mean you decided to crap on the customers of your best and most successful palm product ever, the treo.
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« Reply #2 on: 11 November 2005, 15:16:48 » |
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No - he gets it - and it's ALL about Palm not just Treo - I just hope the lure of short-term money from the evil-empire doesn't totally distract Palm from the one thing they have going for them: 30,000,000 users who just don't need a Start button.
The Newton disappeared just like this - and I BET Apple shareholders are are kicking SJ's ass to this day for that short-term decision, again based on MS's money.
Palm has no OS legs and nervous shareholders - they do own BDos and "could" have a downward compatible architecture using either PalmOS or BDos - but I ask you: What is a Palm running Windows?
Uuummm, a PocketPC?
Swines! Does anyone remember CPM - same thing - superior architecture fails when they hit the big time and see dollar signs everywhere..
I tells ya, we'll only be left with WalMart, Microsoft and McDonalds at this rate!
Whatever happened to the CEO who cared deeply about the longevity of his company? Where's the passionate committment to the knowledge you actually did get it right? Palm is an awesome platform which has a definate market it owns, what's the bet they just give it away for a few shares?
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« Reply #3 on: 11 November 2005, 16:06:10 » |
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With push email effectively built into Microsoft Exchange server, the smartphone operating system of the future is Windows Mobile.
Palm has 3 million Treo users. There are 130 million Exchange users, a significant portion of whom will all own a smart device in a few years. A market that large is simply too much to ignore.
Palm will have to stay ahead by adding their own layer of improvements on the top of the Windows OS and innovating on the hardware side. I wouldn't be suprised to see them enforce their patents either, because I'm sure some competitors arriving later to the party will be infringing on their ideas.
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« Reply #4 on: 11 November 2005, 16:48:01 » |
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Yeh but it's not ALL about email - it's also about mobile computing - disconnected users requiring database lookups require a local thick client at least initially.
The world, just like your laptop, is only partially driven by email.
Still, this is a Treo forum - Treo's a wireless device, point well taken . .
I just don't think I can give up the enterprise apps I use on my Palm and rely on broadband, ever - yup it works great for emails under certain sizes; but I'd like to have a choice (just like I have a choice on my desktop, eh?) and when it comes to data and OS the more open-source the better (MS's founding premise but..hah!) and Palm data and the OS is the closest thing we've got right now (next to Linux)... ...just one opinion.
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« Reply #5 on: 11 November 2005, 17:35:38 » |
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Your opinion is 100% valid. Probably PalmSource will offer a Palm OS on Linux kernel that will meet those demands.
The question is, will the software development community migrate to Windows and never come back, if that market proves to be big? That's a very real possibility and perhaps the reason Ed Colligan's letter was addressed the way it was.
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« Reply #6 on: 11 November 2005, 20:30:24 » |
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Xactly...
One of the saddest events in the PC-world must have been the demise of the millions of software titles just waiting to go global that were already running under CPM just before MSDOS showed up...
Then all the Newton code vanished ~'96 up sprang CE...
Palm was the evolution of the best of the '90s best and worst PDAs, tons of code which can go multigenerational with the platform... if it lasts long enough...
Unix's survived it all... PalmOS emulator... other emulators?.. very cool platform... super-versatile.
What would developers prefer? Hmmm...
Who wouldn't be straddling the fence, er um, I mean keeping the corp's options open, yeh that one.
We developers of wireless/handheld s/w really only need a well supported stable OS with good speed, storage and sdk's with all the right drivers working - Palm's been a godsend for years and has allowed the evolution of a lot of great intellectual property - we would be 5 years behind if they weren't in the market - just like Windows put us back (sorry), and DOS forced the rewrite of the CPM apps, and all the mini apps... just a rant, I'm ofta Australia tomorrow so catch you on the other side ...
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« Reply #8 on: 12 November 2005, 00:04:25 » |
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The question is, will the software development community migrate to Windows and never come back, if that market proves to be big? That's a very real possibility and perhaps the reason Ed Colligan's letter was addressed the way it was.
looking at all the independent Palm coders out there, it appears a lot of them are also Unix coders (of many different flavours) I can't in all honesty see them defecting to MS?? also if Palm effectively adopt a unix architecture surely the world is our oyster? |
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« Reply #9 on: 15 November 2005, 22:16:48 » |
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It's simple - if palm os disappear, it wouldn't be Ed's fault. Except Palm inc, does anybody else manufacture palm os devices in some larger volumes? No. Why? Because Bill gave them money not to? Windows is crap, that's right, but it's the most dishonoured os of all thimes, and we forget how basicly good it is.
And, I think that Ed is fair. We will probably have two Treos with different os-es, and market will decide should Palm inc keep going in that direction, or shoul it switch only to one os.
I think that we - users, wil benefit from this new course.
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« Reply #10 on: 15 November 2005, 23:47:47 » |
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I Windows is crap, that's right, but it's the most dishonoured os of all thimes, and we forget how basicly good it is.
Sorry but we don't, yes XP is by far the best WindowsOS produced, but at a cost, Linux can do EVERYTHING windows does and more often for Zero cost, and with the new GUI's coming through the use of the command line can be close to Zero. Linux OS's tend to be much more stable than Windows don't have the security issues and as they are open source when security issues come up they are often patched within days! |
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« Reply #11 on: 18 November 2005, 14:12:44 » |
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« Reply #12 on: 28 November 2005, 02:01:31 » |
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I hope I'll be able to switch my Palm OS to Windows Mobile. I've used Palms for years - even with a Pocket Mail modem.... Then I got a Ipaq 2215 and I was happy to be able to use my Outlook, Access, Word with seamless syncs - Even Adobe Reader was a charm to use.
Don't get me wrong, Palm is okay, but I'll take the Windows Mobile if I can.
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