There is no doubt. I switched from my 650 to one a few weeks ago and it is awesome. Got tired of waiting for Palm to get their act together in size, performance and features. And I have used a treo since the 300, before that was the Handspring Prism (with the sprint springboard phone)

Not for me. The TyTN II is an excellent piece of hardware. If it was running, say, Symbian, I'd trade my scratched-up 650 for it in a minute. But as long as it's running Windows Mobile, it's uninteresting.

The previous version of the TyTN is issued as a company phone at my place of work, and experience has not been positive. Performance deteriorates over time, necessitating frequent reboots. The more you use it, the faster performance deteriorates. The ringer sometimes gets "stuck" and fails to signal an incoming call. The only positive thing, it appears to me, is that support organizations feel more comfortable supporting something with "Windows" in the name. I'd rather stay with my personal 650 than own one.

Nevertheless, I'm not married to Palm. I'm very frustrated with Palm's mediocre offerings, (No Bluetooth 2.0, no wifi, 1.3M camera) and I'm seriously considering jumping ship. But reliability is key, and I note that my daughter's Symbian-based phone has only rebooted once in two years, (when she dropped it and the battery fell out) and it's never once failed to take a call. I'm starting to think that my next phone will be neither PalmOS nor Windows Mobile.

I agree with both of you that Palm's recent updates have been very lackluster. I recently upgraded from the 650 to the 755p only to find out that, while on the surface, it's sleek, when it comes to the actual Palm OS, it's a major downgrade.

It's slower, has removed functionality in the phone app and is incompatible with programs like PTunes Delux 3.x forcing all sorts of upgrades.

Plus they redesigned the keyboard to be less efficient. The biggest key on the phone (the green one) has no use other than to make re-dialing harder.

When going from the 2-4 generations old 650 to the latest generation 755, it's really frustrating that they found a way to break the parts that weren't broken, and manage to not give you much of anything new.

I have a palm 700p, and I agree that I may jump ship when it's time to upgrade.

I want wifi. I want a 3mpx camera. I can live without GPS - I don't need to be "on the grid" that much. But I want more reliability. I've had this phone for over a year, and I am getting the "stuck" ringer thing now - the ringer doesn't ring at all - thank god I programmed it to vibrate always otherwise I'd miss more calls!

Come on Palm! Step up!

Well, it's the EOL for me with Palm. I've waited for a product from them worthy of my sticking around. I didn't get it. I've moved over to the BB side. Perhaps we can meet again. But given the latest offerings from Palm, I doubt if I'll be back in the near future.

It was great while it lasted. But my 700P was a 30% operable unit. My 650 (of which I had 6 catastrophic units) was a royal pain. Palm has lost it's way. It can't decide if it wants to be a Teen Idol or a non-descript-mediocre brick. In any case, I'm no longer interested.

When they return to their core market - the upscale business user, I may give them a nod. But it appears that they've abandoned us for a saturated market who will soundly ignore them. They cannot compete with Sidekick nor the Razor nor the Nokia... in the Teen class. So, we'll probably read about a take-over or a regrouping down the line.

It's too bad. They had a *really* good thing going.

so very true. palm devices have a hard time comunicating with each other. but they are from the same company? that sounds like they are trying to do to much too fast. the sd card does not need downsizing! let's keep it simple stupid.

i moved away from smartphones all together and got a m620 phone it's much more reliable and the size is better

so very true. palm devices have a hard time comunicating with each other. but they are from the same company? that sounds like they are trying to do to much too fast. the sd card does not need downsizing! let's keep it simple stupid.

so very true. palm devices have a hard time comunicating with each other. but they are from the same company? that sounds like they are trying to do to much too fast. the sd card does not need downsizing! let's keep it simple stupid.

This phone is great, puts palm to shame. notice how there market share has shrunk and apple and nokia r going to punish them. palm failed with the folio and will fall with its new line of phones. stick to selling to executives and stay away from teens. palm will get destroyed in the younger market.

And another thing, palms software is terrible, better than windows, but not by much. Software updates r to slow and really don't make much of a difference. The software needs to be engineered. I will be getting an htc. www.dynamism.com

What about running StyleTap on the HTC Kaiser (aka TyTN II)? AT&T Tilt.

I like the phone itself but I like Palm OS and the applications better.